With the 20th anniversary “Hanniversary” all over our feeds, we had to dive in. We’re focusing on one episode from the tv show, “You’re So Vain, You Probably Think This Zit Is About You”, using it as a lens to explore the rise of teen skincare and how beauty standards are showing up earlier than ever.

Taylor puts her marketing hat on, Gel brings the body image lens, and we finish with a little Hannah Montana: The Movie nostalgia and a chat about our thoughts on the recent 20th anniversary special. 

Gel recommended listening to Shameless meets Working Hard: the BTS of building a multi million dollar podcasting phenomenon. 

Taylor recommended watching Project Hail Mary.  

This week’s research:

• Teenage girls’ TikTok skincare regimens offer little to no benefit, research shows: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/jun/09/teenage-girls-tiktok-skincare-regimes-offer-little-to-no-benefit-research-shows
• Trendy skin care for tweens & teens: is it safe? : https://www.healthychildren.org/English/ages-stages/teen/Pages/trendy-skin-care-for-tweens-and-teens-is-it-safe.aspx
• Pediatric Skin Care Regimens on TikTok: https://publications.aap.org/journal-blogs/blog/32348/Children-Using-Skin-Care-Regimens-That-They
• When kids are obsessed with skin care products: https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/when-kids-are-obsessed-with-skin-care-products
• Australia Teenage Personal Care Products Market Size & Outlook: https://deepmarketinsights.com/vista/insights/teenage-personal-care-products-market/australia
• Who buys skincare products in Australia?: https://my.nzte.govt.nz/article/who-buys-skincare-products-in-australia
• The teen skincare craze and its impact on mental health: https://www.psychologytoday.com/au/blog/the-clarity/202409/the-teen-skincare-craze-and-its-impact-on-mental-health

The content we discuss:

• Hannah Montana (Disney Channel, 2006–2011)
• Hannah Montana: The Movie
• The 20th “Hanniversary” special

Your hosts are Angelica Pupillo (@thisisyourbody_nutrition and @gel.pupillo) and Taylor-Jade Kennedy (@taylorjadekennedy). You can also follow the pod (@whatwewerefed).

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With Easter just around the corner, we thought a movie centered around chocolate was the perfect choice! We’re going to deep dive the way Augustus is depicted in the movie, and how this has potentially influenced the way so many generations view people in larger bodies. With Easter just around the corner, we also wanted to use this episode as a way to talk about navigating body image and food guilt over the long weekend. 

Gel recommended following Amber Yackzan (@amberyackzan) on Instagram for hair inspo! 

Taylor recommended making a Jam Donut Cake (New York Times recipe - https://cooking.nytimes.com/recipes/1025647-one-bowl-jam-doughnut-cake) and watching the Chef’s Table Pastry series in particular Episode 1: Christina Tosi and Episode 3: Jordi Roca.

The content we mentioned:

• The Relentless Fatphobia of Children's TV (Rowan Ellis) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l81kaiF1wyc&t=1877s 
• Why You Overeat (& what to do about it) | Lyndi Cohen TEDx Talk - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XntmoxZhMrU 

Your hosts are Angelica Pupillo (@thisisyourbody_nutrition and @gel.pupillo) and Taylor Jade Kennedy (@taylorjadekennedy). You can also follow the pod (@whatwewerefed).

This podcast was produced by us! We are new to this, so we would love your support. Clicking ‘follow’ on Apple and Spotify really helps us know that you like the show, we would also love it if you could share this podcast with a friend so more people can learn about us! 

Thank you so much for listening, we’re so grateful!! 

Yes the time has come to unpack THAT Netflix documentary and the show the proceeded it, America’s Next Top Model! We’re going to cover how the show was created, the body shaming that took place, the makeovers and the ripple effect of this show for both the contestants and the viewers.

Just a content warning before you listen, we do explore themes of disordered eating and eating disorders. If either of these topics are close to you, please listen with care. For support you can reach out to The Butterfly Foundation on 1800 33 4673 or Lifeline on 13 11 14.

Gel recommended reading ‘Beyond the Body Bully’, by Bev Aisbett and Dr Rebecca Reynolds & listening to the ‘Curse of: America’s Next Top Model’ podcast series hosted by journalist Bridget Armstrong. 

Taylor recommended reading ‘Evenings and Weekend’ by Oisin Mckenna. 

The articles we mentioned:

• Tyra Banks Isn’t Sorry Enough in Reality Check: Inside America’s Next Top Model - https://www.thecut.com/article/tyra-banks-netflix-reality-check-inside-americas-next-top-model-review.html 
• ‘The real legacy of ‘ANTM’ was showing young people how to hate their bodies’ - https://www.huffpost.com/entry/americas-next-top-model-reality-check-eating-disorder_n_69989c3de4b069f4556c60cc 
•  ‘The cost of beauty: analysing eating disorders and body image in fashion culture through Next Top Model Competitions’ - https://www.researchgate.net/publication/387737396_The_Cost_of_Beauty_Analyzing_Eating_Disorders_and_Body_Image_in_Fashion_Culture_through_Next_Top_Model_Competitions 
• “Say that to the anorexic girl: Eating disorders and America’s Next Top Model” - https://dc.cod.edu/hcir2009/5/ 
• 'There was cruelty': How America's Next Top Model became a TV horror show - https://www.bbc.com/culture/article/20260213-how-americas-next-top-model-became-a-tv-horror-show 

Your hosts are Angelica Pupillo (@thisisyourbody_nutrition and @gel.pupillo) and Taylor Jade Kennedy (@taylorjadekennedy). You can also follow the pod (@whatwewerefed)

This podcast was produced by us! We are new to this, so we would love your support. Clicking ‘follow’ on Apple and Spotify really helps us know that you like the show, we would also love it if you could share this podcast with a friend so more people can learn about us! 

Thank you so much for listening, we’re so grateful!! 

We’re going to cover how you get into the American Ballet Company, what it’s like to spend so much of the day in front of the mirror, the pressure to have a ‘dancer’s body’, and a bit of a sugary chat about our favourite dances in the movie.

Just a content warning before you listen, we do explore themes of disordered eating and eating disorders.  If either of these topics are close to you, please listen with care. For support you can reach out to The Butterfly Foundation on 1800 33 4673 or Lifeline on 13 11 14.

Gel recommended listening to ‘Bottom of the Pyramid’ by Nia Sioux. 

Taylor recommended Song Sung Blue

The articles we mentioned:

The Impact of Mirrors on Body Image and Performance in High and Low Performing Female Ballet Students - https://www.researchgate.net/publication/51758132_The_impact_of_mirrors_on_body_image_and_performance_in_high_and_low_performing_female_ballet_students 

High Striving, High Costs? A Qualitative Examination of Perfectionism in High-Level Dance - https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/15290824.2019.1709194#abstract 

Instagram post - https://www.instagram.com/p/DTeV7ypjQjR/ 

Your hosts are Angelica Pupillo (@thisisyourbody_nutrition and @gel.pupillo) and Taylor Jade Kennedy (@taylorjadekennedy). You can also follow the pod (@whatwewerefed)

This podcast was produced by us! We are new to this, so we would love your support. Clicking ‘follow’ on Apple and Spotify really helps us know that you like the show, we would also love it if you could share this podcast with a friend so more people can learn about us! 

Thank you so much for listening, we’re so grateful!! 

Coming up on today’s show, don’t change that channel because we are talking all things Hairspray!! In amongst the joy, laughter and average singing, we unpack the overt body shaming of Tracy and her mum, how we can use food to lean into celebration and of course the incredible music and cast!!

Gel recommended reorganising the files on your computer

Taylor recommended an episode of Call Her Daddy titled ‘How to Love Being Alone’ https://open.spotify.com/episode/0GTJUjXqvvhpCtU8Ed7ymQ?si=9765996427e24767 

Here are a list of articles and videos we referenced in today’s show:

The Little Rock Nine - https://nmaahc.si.edu/explore/stories/little-rock-nine 

Corny Collins Show Audition (1988) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEKtELm2dXw 

Life in Beige - Are GLP 1’s worth a life devoid of pleasure by Allison P. Davis in The Cut - https://www.thecut.com/article/glp-1-weight-loss-drugs-ozempic-sex-drive-side-effects.html 

Your hosts are Angelica Pupillo (@thisisyourbody_nutrition and @gel.pupillo) and Taylor Jade Kennedy (@taylorjadekennedy). You can also follow the pod (@whatwewerefed)

This podcast was produced by us! We are new to this, so we would love your support. Clicking ‘follow’ on Apple and Spotify really helps us know that you like the show, we would also love it if you could share this podcast with a friend so more people can learn about us! 

Thank you so much for listening, we’re so grateful!! 

Coming up on today’s show, we’re talking all things Angus Thongs and Perfect Snogging!! We unpack the fear of looking fat, the impact of the physical attractiveness test, and changing ourselves to make us more attractive to boys. Obviously we couldn’t do an episode on this movie without chatting about the olive costume and the snogging scale so be prepared for lots of giggles! 

Gel recommended Bad Batch (https://www.instagram.com/badbatch/).

Taylor recommended watching Bride & Prejudice.

Your hosts are Angelica Pupillo (@thisisyourbody_nutrition and @gel.pupillo) and Taylor Jade Kennedy (@taylorjadekennedy). You can also follow the pod (@whatwewerefed).

This podcast was produced by us! We are new to this, so we would love your support. Clicking ‘follow’ on Apple and Spotify really helps us know that you like the show, we would also love it if you could share this podcast with a friend so more people can learn about us! 

Thank you so much for listening, we’re so grateful!!

Coming up on today’s show- one of our favourite childhood shows, Lizzie McGuire!!! We zoom in on an episode called ‘Inner Beauty’, which explores themes of disordered eating and body image. If either of these topics are close to you, please listen with care. For support you can reach out to The Butterfly Foundation on 1800 33 4673 or Lifeline on 13 11 14.

In this episode we talk about perfectionism as a risk factor for disordered eating, hiding eating behaviours, how to support a friend struggling with disordered eating, and disordered eating as a coping strategy. There was also no way we were going to close off without a sugary chat about The Lizzie McGuire movie, so be prepared for lots of joy and nostalgia! 

Gel recommended writing an ins and outs list for 2026.

Taylor recommended Rental Family. 

The articles we mentioned:

Lizzie McGuire cast reunites to talk about disney series and reboot - https://www.vice.com/en/article/lizzie-mcguire-cast-reunites-to-talk-about-disney-series-and-reboot/ 

The association between eating disorders and perfectionism in adults: A systematic review and meta-analysis - https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1471015323000697 

Your hosts are Angelica Pupillo (@thisisyourbody_nutrition and @gel.pupillo) and Taylor Jade Kennedy (@taylorjadekennedy). You can also follow the pod (@whatwewerefed).

This podcast was produced by us! We are new to this, so we would love your support. Clicking ‘follow’ on Apple and Spotify really helps us know that you like the show, we would also love it if you could share this podcast with a friend so more people can learn about us! 

Thank you so much for listening, we’re so grateful!! 

Coming up on today’s show: it’s the new year so we just had to do an episode on Bridget Jone’s Diary!! We talk about weight as a metric for tracking happiness, what it meant to be thin in the noughties, the role that shapewear plays in our lives, and of course being liked ‘just as you are’.

Gel recommended the Mermade hair waver

Taylor recommended ‘All I Ever Wanted Was to Be Hot: Self Image, Beauty Ideals and Desirability’ by Lucinda "Froomes" Price

All the things we mentioned:

Why do you hate your body so much? Instagram carousel:  https://www.instagram.com/p/DR28JJrjFR1/ 

Satisfaction with Weight Loss - https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3267378/

Psychological Changes following Weight Loss in Overweight and Obese Adults: A Prospective Cohort Study- https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0104552 

Playlist from Bridget Jones - https://open.spotify.com/album/5OEyO2NN7PSAJoXywIDbws?si=HB-0bcXvTtaALFmyarBWNQ 

Your hosts are Angelica Pupillo (@thisisyourbody_nutrition and @gel.pupillo) and Taylor Jade Kennedy (@taylorjadekennedy). You can also follow the pod (@whatwewerefed)

This podcast was produced by us! We are new to this, so we would love your support. Clicking ‘follow’ on Apple and Spotify really helps us know that you like the show, we would also love it if you could share this podcast with a friend so more people can learn about us! 

Thank you so much for listening, we’re so grateful!! 

Gel recommended following @ashleytisdalefrench on Instagram 

Taylor recommended Wham: Last Christmas Unwrapped

The articles we mentioned:

“Luciano Pavarotti was the big man with gigantic fits” - https://www.highsnobiety.com/p/pavarotti-style/ 

Feeling fat - https://townsvillepsychologist.com.au/feeling-fat/ 

Your hosts are Angelica Pupillo (@thisisyourbody_nutrition and @gel.pupillo) and Taylor Jade Kennedy (@taylorjadekennedy). You can also follow the pod (@whatwewerefed)

This podcast was produced by us! We are new to this, so we would love your support. Clicking ‘follow’ on Apple and Spotify really helps us know that you like the show, we would also love it if you could share this podcast with a friend so more people can learn about us! 

Thank you so much for listening, we’re so grateful!! 

Gel recommended Laura Vitale’s mushroom risotto

Taylor recommended Unreasonable Hospitality by Will Guidara

Tip of the day: Be appreciative to your body for what it can do.

Your hosts are Angelica Pupillo (@thisisyourbody_nutrition and @gel.pupillo) and Taylor Jade Kennedy (@taylorjadekennedy). You can also follow the pod (@whatwewerefed)

This podcast was produced by us & we would love your support! Clicking ‘follow’ on Apple and Spotify really helps us know that you like the show, we would also love it if you could share this podcast with a friend so more people can learn about us! 

Thank you so much for listening, we’re so grateful!! 

Coming up on today’s show: the teen movie we both adored growing up; Clueless! We talk about changing ourselves for the male gaze, how subtly diets and food guilt are referenced, and the amazing fashion featured in the film (AS IF we could skip this!)

Gel recommended Brene Brown on the Diary of a CEO podcast.

Your hosts are Angelica Pupillo (@thisisyourbody_nutrition and @gel.pupillo) and Taylor Jade Kennedy (@taylorjadekennedy). You can also follow the pod (@whatwewerefed)

This podcast was produced by us! We are new to this (hello this is episode 1!!), so we would love your support. Clicking ‘follow’ on Apple and Spotify really helps us know that you like the show, we would also love it if you could share this podcast with a friend so more people can learn about us!

Thank you so much for listening, we’re so grateful!